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finalhack13 · Oct 17, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

I just made a Ranger in factions and just got an elite Ranger Tome. I want some input as to what elite skill/build would best suit my ranger until I can actually start capping

Thanks!

MBP · Oct 17, 2007, 10:07 PM // 22:07

[skill]barrage[/skill] always a good choice, add [skill]splinter weapon[/skill] couple of interrupts and pet and you're set

[skill]broad head arrow[/skill] another great one

what campaigns are you limited to? and what elites have you unlocked previously that you can use the tome on? that'll help people make suggestions for you.

finalhack13 · Oct 17, 2007, 10:17 PM // 22:17

I have all Campaigns/EoTN and I've unlocked all Prophecies PvE Skills but I can easily unlock anything else with Balthy Faction

Marverick · Oct 18, 2007, 01:14 AM // 01:14

IMO [skill]Prepared Shot[/skill] get that.

[skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill] is an early and easy cap in Factions.
[skill]Barrage[/skill] is an early and easy cap in Nightfall.
[skill]Burning Arrow[/skill] is an early and easy cap in Nightfall.

but Prep Shot is all the way in the Realm of Torment in Nightfall.

And Barrage is NEVER always a good choice...
Unless the area you are in has at least 3+ critters bunched together continuously, Barrage is worthless.
And don't bring a pet with a bow build unless you're in a B/P team, it's just wasting 2 valuable slots that.

Dean Harper · Oct 18, 2007, 04:21 AM // 04:21

Prep is also VERY early in EotN, check wiki on it.

Monk of Myrodin · Oct 18, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Depending on what sort of build you are going for, [card]Crippling shot[/card] can be useful (although you can get in EotN), If your going for degen, [card]Incendiary Arrows[/card] or [card]Melandru's Arrows[/card] are good choices.
Or for interuption my current favorite (aside from BHA, which is an early factions cap) is [card]Magebane shot[/card]

iridescentfyre · Oct 18, 2007, 08:51 PM // 20:51

If you're asking because you specifically want to know what skill to use your elite ranger tome on, make sure its an elite that's hard to get. Make that tome worthwhile.

Barrage is easy to cap. So is Burning Arrow. Broadhead Arrow and Magebane are slightly less easy. Its not worth using a tome worth 5-10k for something you could cap normally in 10 minutes.

My recommendation is to use it on Crippling Shot. The hardest Ranger elite to get (in my opinion) that's still really worth using. Builds using it are extremely fun and effective in PvP if you're good with it. You can only get it on Perdition Rock, at the very end of Prophecies, so you have to get your (Canthan!) character all the way there. In my opinion, unless you're already at Ember Light Camp, its worth using the tome for.

Rice · Oct 18, 2007, 09:09 PM // 21:09

barrage is pretty a must have for all rangers. Broadhead Arrow and Burning Arrow is also nice, mainly used depends on situation. Megabane is not really worth getting since d-shot + savage shot combo works pretty well for interupts. Crip Shot is nice for PvP but not every usefull in PvE, specially compare to other elites.

Marverick · Oct 18, 2007, 09:21 PM // 21:21

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Originally Posted by Dean Harper

Prep is also VERY early in EotN, check wiki on it.

Whoops didn't realize that, scratch what I said.

In that case I'd have to go with [skill]Expert's Dexterity[/skill] or [skill]Glass Arrows[/skill]

Crippling Shot is in Drakkar Lake, very easy to get from Koren Wildrunner.
Magebane Shot isn't that great really, Concussion Shot and BHA are better for casters since you don't have to constantly use interrupts on them to interrupt them.

iridescentfyre · Oct 18, 2007, 09:28 PM // 21:28

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Originally Posted by Marverick

Crippling Shot is in Drakkar Lake, very easy to get from Koren Wildrunner.

Wow, never even thought of that. Great point.

martialis · Oct 18, 2007, 10:48 PM // 22:48

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Originally Posted by Marverick

And Barrage is NEVER always a good choice...
Unless the area you are in has at least 3+ critters bunched together continuously, Barrage is worthless.

This never happens, really.

Barrage is the most useful elite, but Broadhead Arrow is the most powerful, so I'd get that.

Marverick · Oct 18, 2007, 10:57 PM // 22:57

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Originally Posted by martialis

This never happens, really.

Vizunah Square, Tahnakai Temple, Charr in the Ebon Vanguard Areas, ...

October Jade · Oct 18, 2007, 11:30 PM // 23:30

I really like Enraged Lunge; it's one of the most fun skills available to rangers. Capping it in Factions is a chore, too.

You can also get it in some place called Magus Stones...but I haven't played enough EotN to know where that is, let alone how long it takes to get there.

Yeah, I'm lazy.

DarkGanni · Oct 18, 2007, 11:54 PM // 23:54

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Originally Posted by martialis

This never happens, really.

Barrage is the most useful elite, but Broadhead Arrow is the most powerful, so I'd get that.

Barrage Ain't that great, Players keep thinking that, in PvE I would prefer [skill]punishing shot[/skill] or [skill]broad head arrow[/skill] combined with [skill]epidemic[/skill] or [skill]prepared shot[/skill] for 10energy attacks spamming or [skill]burning arrow[/skill] combined with [skill]apply poison[/skill], Ranger's aren't just barrage

Gardar · Oct 19, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17

Barrage isn't really that hard to get, but it's a really good skill to farm Ice imps, with a ranger, but I agree that you should use that tome to get something that's good and really hard or annoying to get.

But are you looking for a skill for pvp or pve ?

bungusmaximus · Oct 19, 2007, 01:43 PM // 13:43

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Originally Posted by DarkGanni

Ranger's aren't just barrage

Hmm for some missions (urgoz/TopK) they use barrage/pet groups, they work and make the skill worth capping imho. As for the rest, I never use it. Spamming it all the time makes me miss interrupts because of the aftercast

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iridescentfyre · Oct 19, 2007, 05:08 PM // 17:08

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Originally Posted by martialis

This never happens, really.

Barrage is the most useful elite, but Broadhead Arrow is the most powerful, so I'd get that.

Barrage is sorta like the Mending of the Ranger class... people use it because they think they're supposed to/expected to. Its useful sometimes, but rarely is the best elite for the job.

Grammar · Oct 19, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by bungusmaximus

Spamming [Barrage] all the time makes me miss interrupts because of the aftercast

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This is the key problem with Barrage. Because you need to spam it on recharge to get the most out of it, it's terrible if you plan on doing any serious interrupting. As such, it's reserved for damage builds only (like Splinter Barrage and such).

Good elites to use if you plan on doing some interrupting would be Burning Arrow, Prepared Shot, Broad Head Arrow (although I prefer the non-elite Concussion Shot), Magebane Shot, and Power Shot.

MBP · Oct 19, 2007, 10:40 PM // 22:40

Power Shot isn't elite, you mean Punishing?

Omniclasm · Oct 20, 2007, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by Grammar

This is the key problem with Barrage. Because you need to spam it on recharge to get the most out of it, it's terrible if you plan on doing any serious interrupting. As such, it's reserved for damage builds only (like Splinter Barrage and such).

Good elites to use if you plan on doing some interrupting would be Burning Arrow, Prepared Shot, Broad Head Arrow (although I prefer the non-elite Concussion Shot), Magebane Shot, and Power Shot.

Or Strike as One in a Bow/Pet build. Use pet attacks for damage, use bow for interrupts. Never have to worry about missing an interrupt because of attack skills